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Q28 (talkcontribs)

这是我在mediawiki的第100次编辑。其实您随时都可以问我问题,因为我是随叫随到型的,您提及我,如果我在线,我将会在很短的时间内回复你。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

明白,我凌晨可能會問相關問題,希望您早上看到能回答。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

關於對管理員通告板的提報

1.您覺得自己有沒有做錯?

2.如有,哪些指控是正確的?

3.如沒有:

3.1.您覺得他們為什麼想提報您?

3.2.他們的理據是否實質?

3.3.您認為您應否回應相關指控?

4.這件事能否以和平手段解決?

5.如果您真的被封禁,您是否會作出申訴?

5.1.承上,您是否認為他們會再進一步指控您?

關於閣下申請回退權一事

1.您為甚麼需要這個權限,對您來說這個權限能怎麼樣幫助您/為您帶來甚麼好處?

關於閣下宣傳自己的生日一事

1.您提到您的做法是為了打破中文維基百科的紀錄,那麼這個紀錄能為您和維基百科帶來甚麼好處?

2.既然這個紀錄屬於您,那為什麼要建議Cyril Yoshi宣傳自己的生日?

3.您的生日日期被外人得悉,對您會不會有任何壞處?

其他

1.這次指控是否令您覺得不公平?

2.您認為您下一步應該怎麼做?

3.您是否認為他們存心迫害您/陷您於不義?

4.在事件過後,您覺得您是否有地方需要作出改善?

5.在您向管理員蟲蟲飛請教時,您是否認為您的態度正確?

6.您為甚麼要標註自己的編輯次數,而您會否為此而作出一些編輯?

7.您覺得您是否應該冷靜一下,坐等問題變好?


以上,可以不用全部回答,但希望您的心裏能夠回答這位問題。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

您提出了至少16个问题。我会一一解答他们,因为我的远期目标(一年内)是要当选维基百科的管理员,而我预测我当选管理员的问题数量可以破维基百科之最。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

何止是提问量之最恐怕是也会是被拒次数之最吧大概

Q28 (talkcontribs)

我觉得你所说的被拒次数之最,应该是投反对票人数最多的投票,对吗?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

不,我是说你申请的次数

Q28 (talkcontribs)

我计划把当选管理员作为我入站两周年的礼物,也就是意味着我将会在2021年的11月下旬提报。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

不是沒可能,只要他這次之後能洗革心面就好

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

等到他能改正太长不看这个问题之后再讨论他能不能洗心革面也不迟

Q28 (talkcontribs)

我先回答其他区的第2个问题。首先呢,我必须去维基文库避一下风头,好防止被封禁。其次,等我当选维基文库的管理员之后,我便会回到维基百科。这个时候我已经拥有了管理员的大部分的经验,便可以凭借这些经验来申请其他权限。

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

其實你已經在中維被封了一個月

SunAfterRain (talkcontribs)

如果您當選的了再說。很多人都是同時在多個計劃跑的

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来是其他区的第七题。我需要冷静一下,因此我去文库了。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

原本想早點來回覆的,但忙完後您在站內就被封禁了。希望您到文庫不要作出相同行為,否則您在那裏也會被封禁。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来回答生日相关第3题。可能会有,但是为了防止我被人肉搜索,在我申请维基百科行政援之前,我不会透露我的联系电话和我的真实名字。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

那麼只能希望您日後能夠保持不外洩您的個人資料了,不然您就跟我一樣慘。

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

@SickManWP恕我多問,其實您之前發生了什麼事?如果不想回答可以不回答。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来回答anm第1题,是的。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来回答回退员相关问题。呃,这不过是一时冲动罢了。根据我在其他区的第2个问题的回答,我将会在我当选为文库管理员之后,再来申请维百回退员权限。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

另外由于我在维基百科还是被封禁了,所以我会2021年9月13日同时提出申请巡查员回退员模板编辑员权限。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来回答Birthday第1题。毕竟我想于维基百科留名。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

回答birthday第2题。那只是我一时冲动罢了。另外他与我的生日差距仅为4天。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

接下来回答其他区第4题。是的,我有地方需要改善,我将会前往维基文库深造,等我当选文库管理员之后再回来也不迟。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

沒有可能當選管理員 有,不過很漫長。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

我计划把当选管理员当成我入站两周年的礼物。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

重點是,先解決目前的問題才想未來。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

了解。我现在准备把它当成我的15岁生日礼物了,因为维基百科规定说需要一年内没有被封禁才能够申请权限。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

很明顯跨维基帽子收集狂了

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

其他维基的维基人有可能不知道霜奶仙在这个维基上被这个维基的用户认为是这个维基上的帽子收集狂而并不会被认为是那个维基上的帽子收集狂,所以他们并不知道霜奶仙是跨维基帽子收集狂而我们知道霜奶仙可能是跨维基帽子收集狂。

SunAfterRain (talkcontribs)

去投反對票就好,Diff也一併附上

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

离题一下:中文十级考试题目,有内味了。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

回答其他第6题。我只是为了看看我自己编辑次数破万的时间罢了。

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SickManWP (talkcontribs)

追問,那您覺得您這樣做對其他用戶會否造成困擾?

Q28 (talkcontribs)

可能会,因此我进行了一次用户页改造,将原来的编辑次数记录器删除掉,然后在我自己的用户页沙盒重建一个,并将现有用户页沙盒移到我的另一个用户页沙盒。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

您的编辑次数已经破万了,不信您看看您的全域编辑数,所以您大可不用这么做了。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

回答anm第3题,由于在我之前回答AnM第1题的时候说我自己做错了,因此第3题我可以不用作答。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

回答AnM第4题,是的,但是他们都不愿意。这就是为什么我我离开维基百科的原因。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

我们不愿意吗?我想您是真的理解错我们的意思了。我们都想和平解决,但您在ANM相应段落予以解释并下决心改正了吗?没有。这就是我们没有和平解决的原因,是阁下您没有干涉这件事的,只在前一段说了自己不是扰乱。面对之后维基人的“指控”,您回答了吗?

Q28 (talkcontribs)

行动解释一切,针对我发言的不当,我已经悉数将其移除。至于下文的道歉信,我会在下文回答。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

回答其他第5题。我的态度其实并不是特别正确,但是相信我深造之后对他的态度会好一点的。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

請注意,您的深造不是為了別人,而是為了自己。您應該發自內心地反省,在做每件事前該三思而行。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

还有4题。先回答Anm第5题。我不会。我会在被封禁的那一瞬间放“365天加上封禁时长”的维基假期,之所以要这么做,是因为维基百科权限申请规定必须在最近一年内没有被封禁,我才能申请权限。至于他们会指控我,我不会看的,因为他们在指控我的时候,我正在放维基假期。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

你正在假放假,似乎沒有人信任你

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

維基中毒不捨得,正常操作👍🏻

Q28 (talkcontribs)

由于我已经被维基百科社群封禁,因此我已经开始了长达400天的维基百科假期。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

不用啊,你可以在你封禁过期后改过,重新开始正确的编辑。这样到可以申请权限的时候,其他维基人看你的贡献也不会看到太多坏的了(因为它们被刷下去了)。

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

同意,只要封禁後出來做一些有用的貢獻,其他人也會對您改觀

Q28 (talkcontribs)

七夕之后就不会再假的放假了。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

再回答AnM第2题。根据太长不看原则,我不想再看一遍他们的指控理由了,因为这是我的黑历史。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

这就是您为何不被社群信任的原因。正因为“太长不看”和您不愿意面对您的黑历史,才会“接着错下去”。维基百科方针指引加起来怎么说也得几万字,您不也读下去了?那为什么这就读不下去了呢。这些和方针一样,都是维基人对您的意见,改正不是分分钟的事情么?

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

同意,今天的我打敗昨天的我。我也曾經黑歷史過,只是多少人能渡過這段黑歷史,就不得而知了。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

这个黑历史就是你透露生日的事吗?

Q28 (talkcontribs)
Q28 (talkcontribs)

要是有人给我总结一个自我加入维基百科以来所有黑历史的总结,那我一定会去看。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

ANM上列出来的如果说只占了1%肯定是夸张了,但是也不会少于10%

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

我們沒有這麼樣的義務。您最了解您自己,為什麼要由我們幫您總結?

Q28 (talkcontribs)

还有两题,先回答其他区第3题。我认为的,但是我只认为一个人,那就是陈子木。他很早就把我拉进他所谓的黑名单里,只想盼我被封禁。一旦我被提报到AnM,他就飞快的在我的AnM提报里投强烈支持票,而在我提报别人的AnM上以及我的权限申请页投强烈反对票。而且他已经一个月连续两次报告我到anm了。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

追問,那您認為他為什麼要這麼做?這麼做對他有什麼好處?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

还是那句话,你好好想想你自己都干了些什么事

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

“还是那句话”让我想到了:老铁们啊,虽然不是同一时间,但是同一个撤锁。那是那句话,今天我老八...同意。另外,我已经帮助霜奶仙将其子页面的4,5,6替换为了防g15模板。其编辑次数页面也被我提了g10。只能帮到这儿了,您的js页面没法编辑。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

为什么我要把我的编辑次数页面提删呢,那是因为这不是我的用户页,我需要完成一次页面迁移,等我解封之后,我会在我自己的页面上建立编辑次数页面。

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Q28 (talkcontribs)

这是最后一题,也就是压轴题,这道题目是其他区第1题。这次指控我觉得令我不公平。由于你没有让我说出理由,因此我就不再继续回答了。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

當然,最好也說出理由。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

至于理由呢,其实是这样的。首先呢,我在2月下旬建立了好多橙子木“私密空间”镜像页,然后被他本人提出删除请求。于是这么一来,他对我的印象变得非常差。或者说呢,他是坑我的人。他只想盼着我被封禁。只要我一被封禁(例如现在),他们就非常开心。顺便提一下,ZH:U:橙子木ZH:U:secXP可能违反ZH:WP:UP#12,如果你也这么觉得的话,请将该页面提到删除请求。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

然後多問一條,就您被封禁,您在現實生活有哭嗎?

Q28 (talkcontribs)

呃,并没有。另外,要不要解释一下原因?

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

找了管理員蟲蟲飛,她說對某用戶不友善,但可能未至於違反ZH:WP:UP#12。如果將來要選管理員,最好不要弄“黑名單”,否則您只要不人身攻擊也沒違規。

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橙子木 (talkcontribs)

如果你认为我是在坑你,那只能说明你从来都没有重视过方针的内容和共识,你被一堆人认为是不可信用户被支持封禁也是自作自受

Q28 (talkcontribs)

其实我重视过的,例如新冠共识。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

然后太长不看

Q28 (talkcontribs)

不是 。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

ANM可比新冠共识讨论短太多太多了你都能太长不看,新冠共识恐怕也不会细看多少(狗头)

Q28 (talkcontribs)
XinuGod (talkcontribs)

这句话,精妙。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

好啦,问题回答完了。如果你有想追问的,欢迎点击我的回答的下方的“回复”按钮进行追问哦。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

此外最近他们又把我报告到Anm了,这已经是一个月以来第3次了。另外这次事件有一个名称叫八一一事件,因为我在8月11号当天退休,而在退休前后引发了好多争议,因此合称八一一事件。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

明白,抱歉本人事忙,可能會選擇凌晨時段方才回覆閣下。同時亦不排除會有其他用戶介入並且提問更為問題。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

好的,我没有问题,只不过,我可能会晚一点回复。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

@IN:您能否静下心来,不计前嫌的把我在您维基百科讨论页上的“退了”章节的留言读完?相信对您能有所帮助,认识到这些错误也是您立足维基文库和走成为管理员道路的垫脚石啊!求求您了,那些我花了半个小时写的,看一看吧,就算不回复也行啊!

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XinuGod (talkcontribs)

@IN:看来这次是我错了,您并不是讽刺。您又被提到ANM这件事,您反省一下吧,我就不把删除线再删了(花里胡哨的)。若您要回复的话,可以在我的讨论页或者此处留言回复吧。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

另外,我們都想和平解決。反省一下,寫一封道歉信,收回不實指控,或許大家可能支持呢!

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

我不認為單憑一封道歉信能反映他是真心悔改,反而應該從他日後(有日後的話)的行為來判斷。

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Q28 (talkcontribs)

另外请各位看一下W:ZH:UT:IN#2020年8月,谢谢,不要等我封印之后,你们就什么都不睬我了!

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

我看到了你说的话,但是我不确定我是否可以这么做。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

我觉得咱们在MediaWiki中文,交流维基百科的问题,是不是不太好啊。。。

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)
Q28 (talkcontribs)

不行,因为需要粤语用词。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

粤维我一次编辑都没有,如果只在讨论页编辑的话,会不会被管理员当成“将维基百科当成社交网站”而被封禁。

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

於一條條目改一改便行了

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

其實在這問題也不大23333

SunAfterRain (talkcontribs)

去粵維不好吧

Q28 (talkcontribs)

是不太好,但是我在中文维基百科被封禁了,而且在中文维基百科使用flow跟在mediawiki使用flow是一模一样的。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)
Q28 (talkcontribs)

紧急通知:橙子木在未经我同意的情况下,擅自创建勾起我不愉快的回忆的页面,参见W.WIKI/ZU8。请各位尽快把这些页面提报到删除请求。之前另一名用户曾在去年12月10号提删了一个类似的页面,最后结果为删除。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

既然你觉得这是勾起你不快乐回忆的内容就需要提删的话,建议你一起连WP:)一起提删了吧,毕竟你的以抢头香为由的AFD请求也被收录进去存档了呢

Q28 (talkcontribs)

那个我是接受的。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

哦对了还有,你连链接都打不对你就别去生成锻短连接了,链接明明是....../备用存档,你非要打成......./备用存档/干嘛呢,这两链接的页面根本不一样的,建议回去好好学习好好看看书

Q28 (talkcontribs)

因为/备用存档 会包含“/备用存档”,而多加一个斜杠就不会。你可以看一看ZH:T:防g15,他就是这么干的。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

你给的页面里完全没有看见你所述的多加一个斜杠就不会包含,好吧,可能我是个假的语文课代表,完全看不懂你上一句话里说包含的意思和逻辑关系

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

然而你完全没有意识到多加一个斜生成的短链根本就不是原来你想表达的那个页面。。。。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

头一回听说存档WP空间的内容还要别人同意的,醒醒,你这样的行为也是构成骚扰的

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Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

「之前另一名用户曾在去年12月10号提删了一个类似的页面」,有沒有連結?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

他说的是我做的存档吧,位置是User:橙子木/模块列表/INVIP/备用存档

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

其中的存档内容均来自WP:VIP和WP:ANM

Q28 (talkcontribs)

也就是意味着如果H抄了t的用户页及用户讨论页内容,那么如果t认为,H的操作时t留下了不愉快的回忆,那么t就可以提出vfd。但是如果H抄的不是t的用户页及用户讨论页内容,那么无论如何,t也不能把H的用户页删除,对吗?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

你觉得我存档一个Wikipedia空间的内容还需要别人的同意?懂了,这就以你的请求去申请把所有可以存档的机器人申请封禁

Q28 (talkcontribs)

不是你说的那样。阁下似乎经常曲解我的留言本来的含义。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

不,我说的就是你说的话说所传达的含义

Q28 (talkcontribs)
Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

例如我之前被人吿呢!難道可以阻止機械人存檔?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

怎么感觉像是你在说我是机器人一样(开玩笑的)

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)
Q28 (talkcontribs)

实在不行那你就对12月10号的删除请求提交drv

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Explanation-02 (talkcontribs)

@IN出于隐私保护的缘由,在您回复后我将会删除此条留言

Q28 (talkcontribs)

是这样的,我现在打算撤掉后面4个身份验证信息,但是由于我被封禁了,所以只能让管理员来这么做。另外,你在这里的留言是不能被删除掉的,除非你去找全域监管员。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

我可以帮您删掉。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

顺便你删了之后,你得保证前面的语言没有病句,我之前说有7种验证方法,现在只有三种了,所以麻烦把对应的措辞修改一下。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

啊,好。

Explanation-02 (talkcontribs)

好的,看来您也明白了

Explanation-02 (talkcontribs)

还有,再次提醒您,别考虑在维基百科上留名了,您现在需要考虑的是如何不留名。对方可以通过你电话号反向推出您的各种信息,当然也要看是否有人真的这么做,全凭那人的心情。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

也就是意味着我现在有可能会被别人人肉搜索吗?

Explanation-02 (talkcontribs)

基于您所做过的事情,很不幸,是的

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

也有可能。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

我還打算退維,最後爭端結束而取消退維决定。

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橙子木 (talkcontribs)

啊又来了又来了(望天)

到底是我们逼你退还是你在逼我们封禁你你先搞清楚好不好

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

@IN:你在文库那边咋样?有没有犯之前的错误啊?

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

看了眼编辑摘要,我觉得他还是在刷编辑数啊(大悲)

Explanation-02 (talkcontribs)

刷编辑数不是大罪了吧。

橙子木 (talkcontribs)

不是2333我只是吐槽一下23333333333333

橙子木 (talkcontribs)
Q28 (talkcontribs)
Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

別以為在你的討論頁ping人就無人知,我可以把你濫用討論頁的行為告狀

Q28 (talkcontribs)

那我就不编辑呗

Q28 (talkcontribs)

)-: ………………………………………………… ↓↓↓

Q28 (talkcontribs)

本人已被硬性封禁。。这是我还没有保存的更改。

我被封禁之后的善后工作已经全部接手完成,只不过关注度提报还没有人接手,如果有人接手的话,那么我就可以放心的离开了。9月13日见。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

不是我提刪了嗎?!

Q28 (talkcontribs)

你帮我在9月13日以前我提报的所有关注度不足过期条目在关注度过期之后帮我提到存废讨论,另外我在ZHWP的编辑次数定格8454。

Q28 (talkcontribs)

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Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

別哭了,希望您能夠用行動證明您已經改過,我已經很開心了

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

你可以使用社交網絡或電郵繼續討論,否則我可能告你到SRG。抱歉,我是跟據中維NOTHERE。如果你繼續在這裏留言,將被視為繞過中維封禁在其他維基計劃繼續留言視為擾亂

Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

同意

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

@IN:所以霜奶仙有没有除了QQ和微信之外的社交账号?

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

給予IN最後一次留言

Q28 (talkcontribs)
Cyril Yoshi (talkcontribs)

2025年才回來?!

Streetdeck (talkcontribs)

致各位:mediawiki並非用作交流平台,請勿浪費空間。

SickManWP (talkcontribs)

霜奶仙,如果您看到這篇文章,您可以不回覆,但希望您細心聽我的話。


我非常明白您的手機號和姓名被公開的事情,三年前的我也有這樣的經歷。看似這是自己公開、自己拿來的,但是沒有這群到處公開,張揚的人,事情或許不會這麼嚴重。


或許您現在很樂觀,那麼希望您能繼續快樂。或許您現在很消極,要知道,我一定會陪伴您,渡過這個難關。

XinuGod (talkcontribs)

同意病夫的话。只要能把自己的错误改正,度过这个难关,相信霜奶仙可以的。

Renamed user 7jjgug52hi7jjg4 (talkcontribs)

我發表的言論過於激動,抱歉!但我希望霜奶仙封禁後盡快回來,只要霜奶仙把自己的錯誤改正並保證不會再做錯,就應該冇人再告狀了⋯

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