User talk:Shinjiman

Translations of zh pages

Hi Shinjiman, I notice you are translating the main page into various Chinese dialects. I thought you'd better know that so far Chinese pages have been under a generic 'zh' tag, e.g. Documentation/zh. I have no idea how similar the dialects are or whether it is better to have a single 'zh' or separate zh-hans, zh-hant, etc. I thought you'd better be informed about the current state so you can decide which approach would be better. Also bear in mind that all these pages will need to be kept up to date, so more languages = more work. Also, if we decide to have separate dialects for one part of the site, we should do so for the whole site, so the existing 'zh' pages will need to be moved, copied and re-translated. Thanks. --HappyDog 06:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

okay, as of the current stage of the zh variants, I will translate them later (make the page to point them to zh pages first), it's just the beginning of the translation process. :-) --Shinjiman 06:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

OK.

Also, according to meta:List of Wikipedias the correct code for Cantonese is 'zh-yue'. They also list two other chinese dialects aside from 'zh': 'zh-min-nan' and 'zh-classical', which I am assuming correspond to the two names you have used. All languages should use the appropriate code from that list, so those pages will need moving and the language template updating. If they do not correspond then they should not be included here, as we only allow languages for which a Wikipedia exists. --HappyDog 06:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Please see the MediaZilla:8217, the zh-yue/zh-min-nan are not in the classification of ISO639 nor RFC 4646, they are the combined code only. The correct code of Cantonese should be "yue" and Min-nan should be "nan", which they are specified at ISO639-3. The code cannot shown in the localised name due to lacking information set in the Names.php. --Shinjiman 06:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, but this is the site for the MediaWiki software, so we need to be consistent with the way the MediaWiki software names languages. Please use the codes as they will be in a week's time, i.e. the new codes if the change is definitely going ahead, but if there is any doubt, or the process is going to take a while, please use the existing codes. We can move the pages if and when any changes make it into the software. By 'in use', I mean it is the official address of the associated Wikipedia, and the correct language name shows up when the {{#language}} parser function is used. Here is the current state of all the language codes that have been mentioned so far. --HappyDog 06:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Code	{{#language: code}}
nan	閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú
yue	粵語
zh	中文
zh-classical	文言
zh-hans	中文（简体）
zh-hant	中文（繁體）
zh-min-nan	閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú
zh-yue	粵語

As the specifications from RFC 4646, I think the Names.php file needs to be updated. Because the parser function #language is use the localised name which is depends on the Names.php file. Should I make a bug request at the Bugzilla? :) --Shinjiman 07:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you tell me which, of the above languages codes refer to which language/dialect. I am currently unclear as to which ones are duplicates and which ones are different. --HappyDog 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I have submitted the patch to MediaZilla:8599. There's having the information what you're asking. Seems there's also some incorrect localised names in the Names.php. --Shinjiman 07:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Code	{{#language: code}}	Name and Comments
nan	閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú	Min-nan
yue	粵語	Cantonese
zh	中文	Chinese, yes, it's the generic Chinese language
zh-classical	文言	Classical Chinese (combined with och/ltc (Old Chinese and Late Time Chinese if I remembered correctly, also och/ltc are the language codes specified in ISO639-3).)
zh-hans	中文（简体）	Chinese, writen in Simplified variant
zh-hant	中文（繁體）	Chiense, writen in Traditional variant
zh-min-nan	閩南語 / Bân-lâm-gú	Min-nan (seems this code is incorrect, the correct code should be nan, which is in ISO639-3.)
zh-yue	粵語	Cantonese (seems this code is incorrect, the correct code should be yue, which is in ISO639-3.)

See also the IANA language subtag registry.--Shinjiman 08:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Update: The yue, zh-hans and zh-hant have been added in svn:21200 and svn:21201 by Raymond, the codes that added will be going live in these few days, which is after the database update in the WMF servers. --Shinjiman 16:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

It appears that this is all now fixed (the translated names seem to be showing up as expected in the tables above). Thanks for your work on clearing this up. --HappyDog 14:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Add Breton to language template

• thank you. Fulup 17:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I want to say thank you for adding Dutch to template:languages :-) SPQRobin 12:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Localisation stats

Hi Shinjiman, could you look at my question at Talk:Localisation statistics? SPQRobin 15:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

MathStatFunctions.i18n

Shinjiman,

       'msfunc_nan' => "Resulting value is not a number" ,

結果唔係個數。:)Hillgentleman 11:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

       'msfunc_inf' => "Resulting value is infinity" ,
       'msfunc_div_zero' => "Division by zero",

噉又譯做咩？ Shinjiman 01:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

okay, committed on rev:28172. Shinjiman 01:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:MediaWiki News/yue update

Please update Template:MediaWiki News/yue. Thanks. --Kaganer 01:34, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. Shinjiman 06:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Also may be useful do translate headers "Recent news" and "Older news" (with small text), and create page News/yue (instead redirect to /zh) - for link from main page. --Kaganer 06:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Done as well. Shinjiman 06:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Cool ;) Also thanks for /zh improve... --Kaganer 13:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

:) Shinjiman 16:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Communication/yue

Hi! Need your help for migration of Communication/yue into new translation system. I've imported old translations into new version of Communication/yue and appeal to you to check and finish it. Maybe you also translate of How to contribute? Thanks in advance! --Kaganer (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Is there a way to get hold of MediaWiki 1.1?

I only see that https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/ goes back to 1.3. Thanks, Setian~mw (talk) 23:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)