User talk:Randall00

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Hi Randall00. I have deleted your user page as per policy, as this site does not host personal homepages. Please see About this site for more info. Please remember that this site is not Wikipedia! --HappyDog 01:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Naturally. -- Randall00 01:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete user pages information - it's needed for community building, to help WikiMedia grow, and to reduce counterproductive unfriendliness and arguments

  Peter Blaise responds:

  Thank you, HappyDog. I was also miffed to see Randall's abuse of the precious space of this site (NOT!).

  Randall, do you have any copy of what used to be on your user page? I'm sorry your references were deleted. Wiki is about community, and we seem to have a rogue admin who does not understand that. HappyDog seems to think this wiki is about rules. The rules themselves do no contribution, so we need people to feel a sense of welcome and belonging here to help MediaWiki grow (or die).

  Randall, how can I help? Although you are not a contributor to Wikipedia.org (nor am I, much) it seems HappyDog would prefer we build a community over there, and not here! Perhaps we should just refer others to our user pages elsewhere, otherwise, how can we know and learn about about each other, to know our fellwo contributors well? And, if we don't learn about, and from, each other, how will we ever overcome misunderstandings, and grow, personally, let alone grow MediaWiki? Mayby MediaWiki is running short on space, space they need to keep track of funny images:

  Here's your hat; what's your hurry?

-- Peter Blaise peterblaise 08:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Just for the record, the deleted user page was a direct copy of Randll00's Wikipedia user page (and labelled as such), with a lot of broken links due to the move. I checked this, which is why I didn't need to offer Randall00 a copy of the page source. The page was Randall00's "ultimate wikiportal to how I spend time on the internet" which is clearly against site policy (see About this site#What MediaWiki.org is not). Randall00 seems to have accepted this and simply added a link to the Wikipedia page, which is acceptable. Peter Blaise had nothing to do with this situation prior to posting the above comment. --HappyDog 13:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that my user page would be deleted if it were found out by Wikipedia administrators, as I imagine they also have similar guidelines as to the extent you can use the software as free webspace. In fact, for some reason, in my w:Special:What_links_here page, I'm actually categorized as a "User page to watch" by a user who seems to be waiting for a promotion to admin status so he can go on his little power trip and find the people breaking the rules. But of course, with open source software, I'm obviously not the only one and it's more or less impossible to enforce.

So yes, you're right I accept your deletion of my user page, but I also recognize that it probably never would've happened had I not commented elsewhere and that there was really no good reason to do it in the grand scheme of things. I'll just be re-building it over time with valid MediaWiki-related content anyhow. Assuming I don't get banned first. Contributing is tough like that... -- Randall00 18:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I check all new user pages - yours did not fall within our acceptable use policy so was deleted. Creating a user page with MediaWiki-related content is fine, although it would be better to add this content to the appropriate pages elsewhere on the site, rather than in user space. If you want to keep a diary of your involvement with MediaWiki, it might be better to start a blog elsewhere as that is not really the purpose of this site.

Note that people who listen, communicate, learn and (contrary to your final statement) contribute do not get banned. --HappyDog 00:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Reason?

Hi, could you explain this revert to me please? Thanks --:Bdk: 20:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It is a talk page, used for discussion. I have never heard of a wiki that supports deleting a user's comments, banned or not, even at Wikipedia itself. Now, of course, MediaWiki is not Wikipedia, but when you cease to allow people to express their opinion and request insight from others on the subject matter, it also ceases to be a wiki at all. Instead, it becomes a bizarre posting board where the administrators get to control language, dialogue and thought as they see fit, openly rejecting submissions that don't jive with the policy. If this is the way it goes and discussions are going to be taken personally to the point of outright banning users with both a dissenting opinion and the initiative to do something about it, perhaps you should add "Community" to the list of things that MediaWiki.org is not. -- Randall00 01:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)