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Initial designs feedback: Matěj Suchánek

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Summary by PPelberg (WMF)

T267444: Make the affordance(s) for adding a new topic easier to identify and access

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)
  • What do you like about the proposed design?
    It's very consistent with the Reply tool, thus it has the same advantages (notably visual editor for users who depend on it).
  • What do you wish was different in the proposal?
    Nothing on my mind.
  • Can you compare the designs being proposed here to the current experience? Can you accomplish your current workflow for adding new discussions with this proposal?
    While this integrates well with the "Add topic" button located at the very top of talk pages, some pages make use button-like elements which link to ?action=edit&section=new and offer another way to start a discussion. (Example: w:cs:Wikipedie:Bot/Žádosti o provedení práce, button "Požádat".) In other words, clicking a link with a specific address is another way of starting a new discussion. So I was wondering if you thought about integrating with those links/buttons as well. But otherwise this probably works well the classical way.
  • What other improvements do you think would be valuable for us to consider making to the new tool?
    (This is related to the previous question.) There is a gadget on Wikidata (NewSection) (and possibly other wikis) which appends "Add topic" to the last heading on a discussion page (example page). This is meant to provide an alternative for users who would click "edit" at the last present discussion, add a new heading to start a new discussion. But it also serves as an "entry point" at the bottom as well, as opposed to the classical one at the top. So it might be worth providing a native "entry point" at the bottom of talk pages (like "You can start a new discussion here") using this tool.
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The team has been talking about whether the new style should be "always" (whenever you end up at a link with ?action=edit&section=new , this is what you get) or just "sometimes" (different buttons/links/parts of the page behave differently). Which would you prefer?

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

I think it would be nice to have some support for the custom elements as well. (At least when they point to the same page.)